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Base Broly(unrestrained, movie 8) vs Androids 17 and 18
Topic Started: Jan 3 2012, 11:00 AM (1,629 Views)
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The androids by comparison cant take broly in base form? does broly even HAVE any fighting ability in his base form? cause everytime he powered up and went insane he went rssj and then eventually ssj.

So WHY kp? why do ANY of you have broly taking people in base when he cant even control his power up to turning rssj? as i recall he goes into a trance and transforms automatically. So the androids cant take broly while hes in his DOC banner phase? you guys are trippin. Broly cant even fight, and he's quite possibly SEVERLY autistic, and he's FIGHTING people on base?

No in movie 8 or any other movie.

Even in movie 10 when broly woke up? he AUTOMATICALLY went ssj when he confronted the two kids.

This pretending i hate broly thing because you guys kiss his ***** is corny. There is no logic to the hate that goes on for anyone not drinking the kool aid on broly. If you guys honestly think broly is taking people in base YOU guys are the ones being biased.

But brolys so strong that even as a severly autistic weirdo who screams kakarot or otherwise remain quiet he's killing the two androids that whooped vegeta in ssj?

WHY???!!!

Like sasuke said, his transformation makes him powerful, i dont htink broly has ANY real power in base and never showed any. So your theory doesnt hold water as its obvious you are guesstimating by ONLY going off his LSSj multiplier and doing his math in reverse.

Otherwise, he transformed for no reason, but since hes so strong he just created his Lssj form for the hell of it, and never mind being able to kill everyone in SSJ lets just go completely overkill since his lssj is a ssj3 level and have it be a miracle punch Mssj goku put a hole in his ssj3 powered chest.

According to YOU guys he powers up for no reason, thats clearly biased.

Just accept his power is deeper and he doesnt NEED a base Pl level, as his ssj multiplier must be higher.

You cant USE goku as a measuring stick for broly remember? training means nothing.

Its almost like a super power, and being born a super saiyan has its perks. His base pl is 10,000 as thats what he was born with, his zenkai, put him up to ssj levels, but just like goku jr he cant control going into ssj.

As a matter of fact he seems like a WHOLE different person.

Ive never denied his strength KP, you guys just cant explain why. But you saying you believe he can take ANYONE in base is just laughable.

Going by goku as a measuring stick would HAVE to include everything inherent in how the advancement of power works. Including the fact that His base is x whatever number that makes him that strong, there are NO exploits, NO side panel talk, OR evidence that suggest broly does people in so strong at base when everyone they ran into is used to seeing the monster, even the slaves, and they WATCHED him transform!! so why would he transform against some hopeless useless slaves if he didnt HAVE too?

Thats what i thought.

Broly cant even control when he transforms unless he feels threatened or controlled. Goku brought that out, and he went all weird and trance like.

Broly fighting people in base as he was in movie 8 aint gonna happen.
Dont tell me u missed that.

and if the androids dont give him a chance to transform? it would be over before you could say broly hate.
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I'm sorry Ninja,but I'm just taking Kp's advice and just give up on you.It's not even worth my time trying to convince you anymore.Because it's obvious you have no clue.
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ur killing urself trying to figure out WHY this is. when you cant even reason with what i said? so then where is brolys fighting ability in base? no answer? thats what it sounds like. This is a debate forum, convincing me to believe what you beleive is the point. The only person without a clue is the only one pointing fingers.

By the way? you didnt answer any questions.

Exactly WHAT can broly do in base? Cause ive seen him do zip, without transforming? he's shown NO promise. Rssj was the only indication he even had any hidden power. He cant fight. So what point are you trying to make besides u being able to play follow the leader?
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Broly in RSSJ is shown here to tank post rosat Vegetas kick and Big bang attack,so let's say that this movie is pre rosat which it isn't,but let's say it is.

18 dodged the big bang attack,she isnt able to tank it or deflect it,it wouldve completely destroyed if she hadn't dodged.That alone puts RSSJ Brily beyond the Cyborgs level even if the movie is pre rosat as you suggested which it is NOT.

Base trunks is arguably piccolo pre rosat level,he went SSJ to quickly kill the Cyborgs.Base Goku is 40% stronger than Base trunks at the very least,an Base Broly is a bit ahead of Base Goku seeing as RSSJ Broly was able to have the upper hand against MSSJ Goku.

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Eeew, I don't want to say it but Broly takes it. Can we stop making topics where Broly wins because it makes me sad :( lol.
Edited by Copy_Ninja, Jan 4 2012, 01:36 PM.
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Must be some wild timeline where Gohan achieved Super Saiyan, cut his hair, and grew a couple feet outside of the RoSaT. Growing taller is especially wild because how did he do that in a couple days? Lol. Pre-RoSaT just is so nonsensical.

Aside from Gohan, we've got Vegeta being huge compared to his pre-RoSaT look and, oh, Trunks has long hair! Weird how his hair grew that long in a few days when it was shown to be short during the android battle.
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Could that movie be an alternate timeline where Goku's IT Kamehameha actually killed Cell? That's how I thought of it anyway.

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Jan 4 2012, 02:08 PM
Could that movie be an alternate timeline where Goku's IT Kamehameha actually killed Cell? That's how I thought of it anyway.

Maybe, but then M10 wouldn't be connected.
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It could be a timeline where Vegeta/Trunks killed Semi-Perfect Cell. So Goku and Gohan would still go in the time chamber and be MSSj's, but have no reason to stay in that form like they did in the 10 days for the Cell games.

Edit: Oh wait, that wouldn't fit in with the 2nd Broly movie either.
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There wasn't any alternate timeline simple as that.
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I've changed mine to x10 with the same reasoning as TGZ.

Initial Transformation : x50 and permanent increase in base
Subsequent Transformations : x10

Broly takes this imo.
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Hate to say it, but BORLY has this.
Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?
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